There has been a lot of chat on Twitter following John Steven’s posting of this quote from Tim Keller:
Helpful comment from Tim Keller that it’s harder to combine different classes in church than different ethnicities. Higher levels of education flatten cultural difference making it easier to grow multi-ethnic graduate churches. The class divide is huge issue in UK evangelicalism
— John Stevens (@_JohnStevens) June 19, 2018
In response to somebody suggesting that the increase in graduates in Evangelicalism was due to social mobility and wider trends in society, I said this:
That can’t be right. 81% of those who regularly go to church now have a degree whilst c. 70% of the country have never been to university. Evangelicalism has vastly outstripped wider society on this.
— Stephen Kneale (@steve_kneale) June 20, 2018
John responded thus:
I agree, but important to bear in mind reasons. Many evang churches are in places with higher graduate concentration & collapse of geographical communities in favour of social networks. Also evangelicalism/gospel is inherently aspirational driving social uplift. Not an excuse.
— John Stevens (@_JohnStevens) June 20, 2018
Which led to the following comments from Ian Williamson:
There are also plenty in and around housing estates who have a middle class congregation drive in whilst recruiting pastors according to their academic ability. Check out every regional gospel partnership, @theFIEC leadership and strategic/vision exclusively middle class…
— Ian Williamson (@spudgunpreacher) June 20, 2018
….I am the only non university educated, indigenous, working class pastor in the North East (that I know of) and Ive never been involved in any strategic planning for the area, why is that?
— Ian Williamson (@spudgunpreacher) June 20, 2018
John responded this way:
Many FIEC churches are doing a fantastic gospel work in non-graduate & non-middle class communities. The FIEC Trust Board has sought to be more representative of different UK contexts: Scotland, Wales, the North, smaller churches etc. FIEC as a constituency is broader than GPs.
— John Stevens (@_JohnStevens) June 20, 2018
Leading to Ian pointing out:
I am not trying to be clever or say @theFIEC doesn’t do good things, I am aware of all the good it does, that is why I am a member of the pastors network and our church is affiliated with it…
— Ian Williamson (@spudgunpreacher) June 20, 2018
… What I am saying is the uneducated W/C are underrepresented and overlooked, that is a fact and one Im not going to ignore. Every time I try and mention this issue it is met with a smokescreen of what @theFIEC is doing well….
— Ian Williamson (@spudgunpreacher) June 20, 2018
What would be more sincere and helpful is the acknowledgement of what the @theFIEC is doing wrong, (in regards to class) What it intends do to address the issue which will include discussions with the W/C
— Ian Williamson (@spudgunpreacher) June 20, 2018
Somebody then noted:
I think part of the problem is me. Whilst I was first generation in my family to go to uni, having been I can’t undo that. We get compartmentalized very young and then simply don’t know how to un-silo
But I’m delighted that conversions like this are happening. It’s crucial
— Marcus Honeysett (@marcushoneysett) June 20, 2018
Leading to the following:
But I’ve been to uni but now pastor a church in deprived community because there was a need. The issue is those who graduate are staying in MC areas full of graduates like them. We need some of them to go to deprived communities if we are to raise up indigenous workers
— Stephen Kneale (@steve_kneale) June 20, 2018
These are 2 different problems
One is lack of people willing to serve the W/C which is wht your talking about.
The other is excluding the W/C from ministry, mission and training which is what I was talking about. Both problems stem from having a majority culture make the rules— Ian Williamson (@spudgunpreacher) June 20, 2018
Agree, two different issues. Wasn’t saying that’s the arg you were making. But they are linked. We need ppl to go to unreached areas *so that* indigenous people can be raised up. As ppl won’t go, indigenous workers not made, so they get no representation. Agree with last sentence
— Stephen Kneale (@steve_kneale) June 20, 2018
It was this last point I wanted to pick up here.
Ian was (rightly) making the point that working class people are severely underrepresented within Evangelicalism, particularly the branch of it to which he and I belong. Even where working class people are invited to things, they are usually invited to something in which the parameters have already been planned and set by middle class blokes. As Duncan Forbes has said elsewhere, they may get a seat at the table but it tends to be a kiddie seat. The working class guys are invited to events that are planned and then controlled by middle class leaders. It can feel a bit like a government consultation – you are given the room to say what you think but within the tightly controlled parameters set by them and they will listen only if it chimes with what they’ve already decided to think. I am not saying this is what anybody intends to do, but it is how many of my working class friends feel about it. That they aren’t invited to the planning stages of these things makes them feel like an after-thought and as though their views and opinions are of secondary importance.
In response to some handwringing that sounded like middle class ‘woe is me’, I made the point that one way we can overcome this problem is by going to working class communities and seeking to serve them, make disciples and see them raised up to positions of leadership. Ian (again, rightly) noted that this was a different issue – he was speaking about working class representation while I was talking about middle class people being willing to go to working class communities. But these things are certainly linked.
We lack working class representation because Evangelicalism is itself overwhelmingly middle class. Why is Evangelicalism overwhelmingly middle class? Because like begets like and most middle class people are unwilling to go to deprived communities and make disciples in such places. The unwillingness of the middle classes to go to where they perceive it will be uncomfortable for them has led to an overemphasis on reaching middle class people just like them. Reach graduates and graduates will become the majority voice and take up positions of leadership. This means there are relatively few working class leaders to raise up to leadership positions. The fact that middle class people are unwilling to go to working class communities has led directly to a situation in which people from working class communities are not being reached at all which, in turn, led to a failure to represent working class people in our leadership because few are there to promote. The unwillingness to go is what led to the disproportionate figures and a lack of representation at leadership level. These issues are intricately entwined.
Now, we can bemoan all the reasons that we are in that situation, but we must deal with the situation as it is. If we lack representation among the working classes, what do we need to do now in order to improve this issue? If we are going to see indigenous workers raised up from working class communities, it will require middle class Christians to go to those communities and begin to make disciples where there are currently no gospel preaching churches. Mez McConnell has made this point in his book Church in Hard Places – the schemes of Scotland don’t have enough in place right now for indigenous leadership so it will rely upon others coming in so that indigenous workers can be raised up in the long-term. Once they have gone, it will require those believers to actively train working class men such that they can take up leadership positions in the church.
We cannot separate the unwillingness of middle class believers to go to hard places from the lack of representation of people from hard places. If we want to see people raised up to positions of influence, we first have to reach them with the gospel. To reach them with the gospel, somebody has to take the gospel to them. We then have to take a step back and permit those we reach to take up leadership positions within our churches and, then, in our local and national organisations. As it stands, Evangelicalism is an overwhelmingly white, middle class movement. These are, by and large, the people we have to send. So it follows, if we want working class representation in Evangelicalism, we’ve first got to send some middle class people to reach them.